Report on Visa Run To Bangkok
Expats living in the Philippines may enter the country with only their passport, depending on their home country. This is probably not the best way to come in as it adds some expenses but for some of us it is the only choice. Those expenses include P2

500 to P5500 every two months. After sixteen months, the expat must leave the country for three days and then enter the country again with an onward ticket. That onward ticket significantly raises the cost of the trip out of the country. Most expats refer to this required trip as a “Visa Run.”
Three Days Required?
I’ve seen on the Philippine Bureau of Immigration (BI) site that there is a requirement to stay out of the country for three days. My travel agent in Cebu also says the requirement is three days. However, I’ve heard from many expats that say they flew to Bangkok (about 8 hours round trip in the air time) and then turned right around and returned to the Philippines on the next available flight.
Requirements to Leave the Philippines
It is harder to get out of the Philippines than to get into it! That’s assuming you’re not coming for ill intent. Even then it may be easier to get in than out. BI probably wont know you have evil intent unless you’ve been busted before.
Exit Certification Letter
It is easy to forget you need an exit certification from BI before you leave. You’ll need to appear before BI yourself so that they can finger print you and provide you with a letter. This exit certification will cost you about P1300. I paid P1800 but I used an agent only to find out I had to appear in person anyway. The agent may have had some of the paper work completed for me already. I don’t know.
Onward Ticket
When you enter the Philippines, you will need a ticket to your next port. When I entered the Philippines the first time, no one asked me if I had one but it may have been in the computer. This time, my onward ticket was through Cebu Pacific Air and I flew in and out of the Philippines with Philippine Air Lines. This time I was asked for it.
When I re-entered the Philippines, BI asked me if I would be staying for three weeks. My onward ticket is dated for the 29th of May which is only about a week. I don’t know if the immigration official knew I had a ticket out on the 29th but I told him I plan to leave on that date but I might get an extension. He frowned a bit when I said that.
While in Bangkok
Things went pretty well in Bangkok. My room was too hot but as long as i stripped I could stay cool enough. The staff at the 27 Hotel that I stayed at asked for my passport when I checked in and inspected it with great care. They seemed worried that my entry stamp was near the edge of the paper and spent some time trying to read the fine print. I don’t know what that was about.
The staff at the hotel were friendly and helpful. I didn’t eat there. I bought only water as they didn’t have diet coke. The room had hot water using a wall hanging heater much like the ones used in the Philippines.
The room was not dirty but it did have roaches and ants. Not over whelmed with it but I didn’t want to leave any food lying around unprotected. The hotel does not allow you to bring food from the outside in but I managed to do so.
I was surprised to find 7-11 stores in the Bangkok and they seemed to be the same Southland Corporation stores that one would find in the USA. Quite modern, with some of the same security measures in place. I bought a can of Pringles while I was there.
There were massage parlors every where, some seemed legit but many were on the seedy side. There were plenty of girls lining the door ways to all the bars at night. Some of them extremely pretty. Not the kind of place I’m going to go into alone in a strange country. That’s a great place to find lots of trouble and the last thing I was looking for was trouble. I just wanted to get in and out of the country and get back to my beautiful Filipina.
I didn’t explore a lot. I had only one full day in Bangkok and I spent most of that in an Internet cafe and several hours being driven around to places I didn’t want to go to by the taxi drivers of Bangkok. Warning, if you don’t know exactly where you want to go, the cabbies will take you any place. I had one long ride in a taxi, I think it lasted two hours as it was in heavy traffic. Once I got to the where he was taking me it was about as far from a Pizza hut as it could be. I will be writing more about my experience with the cabbies on http://liveinthephilippines.com in the next day or so.
Elephant in The Street
The most unusual thing I saw was an elephant on the street. I had walked a good distance, I was hot, hungry and tired when I came across it. It was also on the other side of a seven or eight lane road and I was in an area that I didn’t feel safe in. I wish I had been able to get over there but I was just not into at the time. I had been looking for a Pizza Hut for hours.
I did finally find one, only after I had given up though and asked to be taken to McDonald’s. I was very hungry so I wanted to make sure I got enough to eat and I did. It would have been a chance to actually touch an elephant though and I should have taken it. I’m not really being down on myself though as I was at my wits end at that point.
I enjoyed my short time in Bangkok. I hope to take Jessie next time. I think we would have really enjoyed the place if we had been together but I would need more than two nights and three partial days. I need a lot of rest when I do things like this, others wouldn’t need at much time as I do.
I was impressed how modern the city was. I have not spent any time on the streets of Manila so I can’t compare it to Manila. I look forward to spend some time in Manila but no set plans to do so yet.
If you are looking for a quick trip out of the Philippines on a budget of about $500 this would be a good way to go. The $500 includes my onward ticket back out of the Philippines which is about $125.00 I bought my ticket to Thailand at the wrong time. I paid $350 for mine and now there are promotions for considerably less. How much less, I’m not sure. Cebu Pacific runs their ads without including tax. The tax will nearly double the cost of the flight.
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Hi Rusty,
Can you explain something about the ‘exit certification from BI’ please. Do you need this because you are returning to the Philippines (or do they ask you for that or know that information)?
Is the exit certification only for people leaving after 16 months? What about an extended tourist visa of three or six months. Is the exit certification required then too?
Do you show this exit certification when you return? I’m guessing ‘not’ as BI would not have asked when you were leaving.
I wonder why the fingerprints? Again, I wonder how long you must stay in the country before they fingerprint you when you leave.
Thanks for any information. I’m sure others will be interested too.
Hey John,
From memory, I THINK it is after six months you need the Exit Letter. Its just that, a letter to exit the Philippines. I think it is sometimes called a police clearance. I’ll try to do some more research on that to find out for sure.
Finger prints are to make sure you are who you say you are. I doubt the Philippines has a comptuer system like the FBI of America does. IN the US prints are run through a large database to find possible hits.
I think the reason for the exit clearance is to make sure tat no wanted people are able to exit the Philippines, at least not by plane or other common carrier.
You must surrender the exit letter at your departing port. They took it from me in Manila. I was concerned they would ask me for it while still in Cebu and then Manila would want it as well but I stayed in the domestic lines until I got to Manila.
I haven’t had any luck on finding when the Exit Certification is needed.
I think I said the trip cost me about $500 including my onward ticket. That would be an error. My tickets cost that much. The entire trip including my onward ticket was about $650.00..
RT Ticket PAL From Cebu to Bangkok $350 (I’ve seen this as low as $150)
Food, Lodging, and Transportation in Bangkok $150
Onward Ticket from Manila to Bangkok $150.00 via Cebu Pacific
Rusty,
I always enjoy your stuff because you always include great pictures.
The islands you took a picture of isn’t Bohol but the Camotes Islands.
My mother-in-law is from there. Thanks for the great pics!!
Sorry, I’ve been lax on pictures lately. Its not really by choice. One of my PC’s is down and that’s slowing me down as my processing software is on that PC. Maybe I should start a hardware fund donation.
I wouldd but I doubt I’ll get anyone to pay for my fun. LOL
Thanks, Camotes makes sense. We had just taken off so I thought it was Bohol but that does make sense that it would be Camotes. I’ll try to remember to change that info on the picture.
Rusty Tiger Airways used to have a one way to Singapore that was about $85. You might check that on your next trip. Also some people use ferry tickets to Indonesia. These are supposed to be quite cheap and as long as it takes you out of the Philippines they will accept it.
The Ferry is cheap but I couldn’t find a place to buy them. I called one of them and was told I could only buy them in Zamboanga and even if I would go there, which I wont, getting there would kill all the savings. Figured there must be a way to get them but I couldn’t find it
Tiger? I hadn’t heard of that one. If they are still around that would have been a better choice!
They fly in and out of Clark. You can look them up on the internet. I haven’t checked recently but like I said a O/W to Singapore was about $85. There is another regional airline that flys into Clark as well from Malaysia.
There website is no more. I found them on Goggle but when I clicked on it i got 24 Hour domains which means the domain is no longer active.
Yeah, the ferry tickets to Indonesia sounds like a good idea to me. The Bangkok trip would be an interesting experience though, so it would be a toss-up for me to decide on which one. I’m definately looking forward to having to go on a visa run someday, because needing to go on a visa run will mean that I am finally living in the Phils
As for the fingerprints, my assumption is that they probably run the fingerprints through INTERPOL, but I could be wrong.
By the way, Rusty, I really liked this story. Keep up the good work.
Joe, most people just by their onward ticket to Indonesia and never take the trip. Some do take it but that passes through the Sulu area and is very dangerous for Americans. People will tell you its not, but it is dangerous.
There is also a ferry from Davao to Malaysia that would be a lot saver.
I really think, until I found otherwise, that people talk o using the Indonesia trip as their onward ticket. Cause I tried to actually do it and I couldn’t. I was told I had to go to Zamboanga to get my ticket. Now if I knew someone thatt lived there, I could have go them to buy it for me. If you haven’t already go to http://travel.state.gov for travel warnings related to the Philippines.
I find the western coast of Mindanao too dangerous to visit. I actually would only go to Davao and I would fly into it. If you go, you’ll probably be fine but the chances that something will happen go way up compared to other places in the Philippines. Kindnapping in the south west is the biggest issue.
There may be a hoard of expats tell you its perfectly safe. Its not. There are some beautiful places there though.
You know someone who lives in Davao. Maybe next time he can pick one up for you and LBC the ticket to you.
He’s the one that told me about it and he didn’t know where to get the ticket so I didn’t bother him with it. Talking about $25.00 probably. The tickets prices I saw were over P3000.
Hi Rusty &all. Hope I’m not too far off subject. I want to go back to the Philippines in about Oct. / 09. I have suffered severe back injury since the last time I was there. I am now on a lot of medication inc. morphine & other pain killers. Can I get them there with my doctors letter? They are expensive ( how expensive) Thanks. Guy
Don’t worry about being on topic. I’ll move the comment if I want it some place else.
Most drugs you can get without a prescription at all. If they are narcotics or controlled though your doctors letter wont get you any place. Well, it might help you if you give it to a local doctor.
Not all of the medications I take are in the Philippines at all. Others have different names but the doctor I saw had no problem converting me to the Philippine equivalent.
The medications are usually much cheaper here.
Sounds like you are going to need these pretty badly. I recommend that you come for a shorter visit, see a doctor and find out what you can get.
If that is impossible, then I would talk to your doctor in the US and see if he will keep refilling your meds. I did that for a long time but I wasted a lot of money. I used Walgreens to order them online and ship to Johnny Air Cargo and Johnny Air can ship it to you here. Takes about a week and about P1500 or $30.00 to get it here.
A doctor visit here will cost you about $12.00 If you’re going to Cebu, I can recommend a doctor. You’ll have more choices in Manila though.
Rusty,
I was told by my ex-wifes’ (Thai) nephew that the hotels in Bankok that have a number for a name (i.e.27) were “short time” hotels. That might explain the mirrors and the strange hardware on the walls. But Hey, like you said, it got the job done.
I stayed in one once called “55″ near Patpong. Funny thing is, 55 in Thai is pronounced Ha Ha. So I stayed at the Ha Ha Hotel!
Mark C.
Rusty, that is a gorgeous photo you’ve put up there. Whereabouts is it??
thanks!
That is within a few minutes of taking off from Cebu International.
I believe it is Camotes Island. I thought it was Bohol but someone corrected me on that. I think he’s probably right.
It hasn’t hit me before but the closer you get to the Philippines from the US, the greater the distance in time!
Perhaps that’s why its called the far east. It must have to do with the date line.
It seems like the Philippines is west of the American west coast.
Still seems odd, Jessie asked me that once and I didn’t have the answer except that it is east of Europe. Still you can go west to get to the east.
I think you told me that you use Firefox Christine? If so there is a plugin I use to help me and so I don’t have to buy three clocks.
http://www.stemhaus.com/firefox/foxclocks/
Rus, thanks for the info, but I’ve just finished an 8 hour shift, I can’t digest that information at the moment.
I will re-visit this when I wake up. I’m actually finding the different time zones
most intriguing..
I’m so glad I don’t have eight hour shifts on demand, on someone else’s demand.
I do however miss the cash.